g0v新提案:省電取代蓋電廠,數據收集 - 生態環境討論

Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2014-04-27T19:18

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※ [本文轉錄自 Gossiping 看板 #1JNCOmDv ]

作者: ibbadmin (愛BB) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [爆卦] g0v新提案:省電取代蓋電廠,數據收集
時間: Sun Apr 27 16:56:11 2014

g0v開了一個新提案:省電取代蓋電廠,數據收集

台灣平均每人用電量世界最高,
這代表台灣的整個輸電、用電系統一定潛藏著許多浪費,
我們希望能夠廣集各方有識之士的見解,
形成一系列節電方案,
最終希望能夠省下一座核四的電力,
這樣我們就不用蓋核四、不用蓋火力來替代核四,
不用爭論綠能實不實際。

先前我們已經收集整理了一些可能的資料,包括:
1.家戶與辦公節電:
1.1 省電照明:
民進黨部換LED燈:http://www.ettoday.net/news/20130320/178568.htm
經濟部照明用電資料:http://a.bbi.com.tw/Gossiping/1HJ15v2B.html
1.2 家用品省電:
開飲機燒掉1/3座核四:http://e-info.org.tw/node/85952

2.工業用電節電
2.1 工業設備更新:
台積電省電7.3億度:http://udn.com/NEWS/FINANCE/FIN3/8000845.shtml
台積電免費省電課程:http://ppt.cc/hIua
友達省電2.3億度:http://www.brain.com.tw/teach/businesstoday/643_1.html

3.台電本身省電
3.1 機組更新:輸電線路地下化(尚無相關資料,需要大家補充)

底下推文提到的國科會報告,台灣能夠節電39%。
http://e-info.org.tw/node/86130

有些夥伴提到:
台電輸電線路地下化更新或許可以更加省電,
而一些傳產的機台用了幾十年,如果更新應該也能進一步省電。

我們需要的就是大家在各自熟悉的領域裡,
告訴我們該怎麼做才能省電,能省多少。
如果一年能夠省193億度,
我們就能不用蓋核四。

g0v的共筆平台:https://g0v.hackpad.com/1xcAfdHtkv0
如果不熟悉這個平台,
直接推文或回文也可以,
我們會幫忙整理資料。

最後所形成的方案,
會開放給各反核團體使用,
作為核四替代方案的參考。

不要再說反核都沒有替代方案,
替代方案我們正在寫!

請大家不要只是推,
幫忙提供資料,
或是把網址轉給可能懂的人,
集合大家的智慧才有可能形成方案:https://g0v.hackpad.com/1xcAfdHtkv0
謝謝幫忙!

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All Comments

Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2014-04-28T09:12
可以不用蓋核四 但替代就是用火力發電 對一些人覺得安全
不怕核災了!
Queena avatar
By Queena
at 2014-04-28T23:06
g0v真的超強的 每次都放一些東東出來 比起政府效率直破天際
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2014-04-29T13:00
喔喔喔喔我愛g0v
Jacky avatar
By Jacky
at 2014-04-30T02:54
把電腦關掉,不要上ptt就省電啦
開電腦上ptt超耗電的
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2014-04-30T16:49
受我一拜!!!!
Rosalind avatar
By Rosalind
at 2014-05-01T06:43
這數據很有希望連火力都可以廢掉
Mason avatar
By Mason
at 2014-05-01T20:37
這篇哪裡有說火力發電是安全的??內容不是說也不蓋火電廠?
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2014-05-02T10:31
幹嘛這麼麻煩 漲價就會省電啦
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2014-05-03T00:25
讚啦
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2014-05-03T14:19
節流!!!推!!!能不能也做一個開源的平台!
Jack avatar
By Jack
at 2014-05-04T04:13
gOv5真的很猛
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2014-05-04T18:08
產業降級回黑暗時代就不用用電了阿 核力火力都應該廢棄
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2014-05-05T08:02
賭大家廢不了火電 廢了電價一度10元沒人用得起
Una avatar
By Una
at 2014-05-05T21:56
拜g0v
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2014-05-06T11:50
推g0v
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2014-05-07T01:44
我現在離開位子一下就會關螢幕了
這一定可以成功
電腦也開啟省電模式 這樣應該可以省下一座核電廠
John avatar
By John
at 2014-05-07T15:38
g0v讚啦 應該繳稅給你們
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2014-05-08T05:32
我挺核拉!不過如果拿的出配套能讓電費不暴漲,核4當然能不轉
就可以不轉
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2014-05-08T19:27
拜g0v 真的比政府還有效率!
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2014-05-09T09:21
民進黨外圍組織
Mia avatar
By Mia
at 2014-05-09T23:15
跪g0v
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2014-05-10T13:09
Aaliyah avatar
By Aaliyah
at 2014-05-11T03:03
其實你提的這些事情,已經是很久前就知道了
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2014-05-11T16:57
電腦設定五分鐘無動作自動關閉螢幕
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2014-05-12T06:52
有神快拜 不過降低工業用電才是根本 民生影響幅度小多了
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2014-05-12T20:46
現在沒辦法達成一定有它的原因 可能先朝這方向思考比
較好
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2014-05-13T10:40
最好不要用電腦 你知道一台電腦是多少工業用電換來的嗎
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2014-05-14T00:34
支持!!!但你這樣做國民黨要貪什麼??
Frederic avatar
By Frederic
at 2014-05-14T14:28
太好了~~~真正落實到生活中~~~根本不用核四
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2014-05-15T04:22
人民在乎的是口袋小朋友..管你哪一黨
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2014-05-15T18:16
太讚了,大家一起來
Sierra Rose avatar
By Sierra Rose
at 2014-05-16T08:11
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2014-05-16T22:05
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2014-05-17T11:59
做這些有回扣拿?
Kristin avatar
By Kristin
at 2014-05-18T01:53
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2014-05-18T15:47
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2014-05-19T05:41
工業用電要換成省電機具阿又不是降低生產
Elma avatar
By Elma
at 2014-05-19T19:35
推 一直在幫政府寫作業馬ㄉ
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2014-05-20T09:30
有點想噓,這說明了反了那麼久根本沒替代方案......
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2014-05-20T23:24
手機螢幕亮度調到最暗 3g網路不要常駐 也可以省下一些
Kumar avatar
By Kumar
at 2014-05-21T13:18
太棒了 就是要這個!!!
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2014-05-22T03:12
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2014-05-22T17:06
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2014-05-23T07:00
工業用電要有壓力,廠商才會想換節省設備
Bennie avatar
By Bennie
at 2014-05-23T20:55
更新設備的錢你要出嗎? 換LED省電費 但購買成本呢
Kyle avatar
By Kyle
at 2014-05-24T10:49
這真的很強
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2014-05-25T00:43
不過總算要募集了,所以箭頭
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2014-05-25T14:37
大推....用行動省電才是治本的方法
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2014-05-26T04:31
推了
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2014-05-26T18:25
拜託g0v直接取待政府 哭哭
Noah avatar
By Noah
at 2014-05-27T08:19
政府不做 我們自己做
Zanna avatar
By Zanna
at 2014-05-27T22:14
省民生用電幾乎沒用
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2014-05-28T12:08
這專案太猛了!! 很感動
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2014-05-29T02:02
有方向了,大家加油
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2014-05-29T15:56
明明就是電價太便宜 導致廠商跟民眾都不會節約用電
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2014-05-30T05:50
日光燈管換LED其實已經有套件了。
Carol avatar
By Carol
at 2014-05-30T19:44
直接取代政府好嗎
Elizabeth avatar
By Elizabeth
at 2014-05-31T09:38
重點是工業用電
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2014-05-31T23:33
電價太便宜+1
Hazel avatar
By Hazel
at 2014-06-01T13:27
推節電
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2014-06-02T03:21
電真的該省 但便宜的電價 會讓廠商跟民眾懶得去落實
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2014-06-02T17:15
g0v太強啦!!!
Yuri avatar
By Yuri
at 2014-06-03T07:09
支持漲工業用電 讓廢物企業倒光光
Joseph avatar
By Joseph
at 2014-06-03T21:03
節能真的很重要,推
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2014-06-04T10:58
再漲一點那些賺幾個%毛利的廠商又要出來叫了
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2014-06-05T00:52
用同樣的標準對待火力
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2014-06-05T14:46
上網只用EEEPC 35W
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2014-06-06T04:40
Eden avatar
By Eden
at 2014-06-06T18:34
不漲電價無解 以環保法規越訂越嚴 實務上多已假數據符合法規
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2014-06-07T08:28
愛死g0v 稅金應該繳給你們 效率與執行都超好的
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2014-06-07T22:22
先關PTT
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2014-06-08T12:17
推啦
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2014-06-09T02:11
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2014-06-09T16:05
換機具好貴捏不要啦~ 那核四是...
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2014-06-10T05:59
漲工業用電,太陽能很多人都在排隊安裝,但政府裝死
Todd Johnson avatar
By Todd Johnson
at 2014-06-10T19:53
推推推推推
Una avatar
By Una
at 2014-06-11T09:47
文章寫的都是給沒有實務經驗的人看的
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2014-06-11T23:41
太陽能太台灣效率有夠低
John avatar
By John
at 2014-06-12T13:36
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2014-06-13T03:30
一直很想知道為啥店家關店後,招牌部關掉呢, 這不也是種
浪費電嗎
John avatar
By John
at 2014-06-13T17:24
太陽能補助與建設,政府一直在限制,不讓它爆發
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2014-06-14T07:18
太陽能優惠收購價越來越低,快沒有誘因了。
Frederica avatar
By Frederica
at 2014-06-14T21:12
你們要再想一下,很多開店的,因為要冰原物料,是沒辦法節電的
廢核,真的漲了40%,怕的是物價大漲,不是自己省電能解決問題
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2014-06-15T11:06
太強大了可以出來選總統嗎
Caroline avatar
By Caroline
at 2014-06-16T01:01
其實太陽能利用率最好就是能行光合作用的綠色植物
Dinah avatar
By Dinah
at 2014-06-16T14:55
你好棒:-)
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2014-06-17T04:49
一定要推!可惜我真的很不懂..
Harry avatar
By Harry
at 2014-06-17T18:43
開小店面的才是最傷的
Gilbert avatar
By Gilbert
at 2014-06-18T08:37
推 先解決浪費能源問題 再來談核四
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2014-06-18T22:31
漲工業用電!
Isla avatar
By Isla
at 2014-06-19T12:25
推!!!
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2014-06-20T02:20
我覺得把那些400多億拿去補助工廠更新機器 變為更省電
工業用電也要漲 不然都是民眾在那幫忙
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2014-06-20T16:14
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2014-06-21T06:08
看這篇最省電的其實是日光燈
Adele avatar
By Adele
at 2014-06-21T20:02
清家裡冰箱裡的陳年東西 把3C產品螢幕跟電視螢幕調暗一些
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2014-06-22T09:56
http://www.igotmail.com.tw/home/22045
Sandy avatar
By Sandy
at 2014-06-22T23:50
早點洗洗睡,北部缺電干中南部屁事
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2014-06-23T13:44
既然電力省下來了幹麻要漲電價 詭異的邏輯
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2014-06-24T03:39
水啦
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2014-06-24T17:33
謝謝蒐集 請不要受黨工影響 加油
Selena avatar
By Selena
at 2014-06-25T07:27
檢討民眾生活用電的話老實說沒啥幫助啦,一段時間改善,
Daniel avatar
By Daniel
at 2014-06-25T21:21
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2014-06-26T11:15
又是ㄧ個理像豐滿,現實骨感
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2014-06-27T01:09
雖不樂意 但台電資訊壟斷...
Erin avatar
By Erin
at 2014-06-27T15:04
之後還不是又故態復萌,尤其最浪費電的我感覺是大學生@@
Wallis avatar
By Wallis
at 2014-06-28T04:58
推啦
Jessica avatar
By Jessica
at 2014-06-28T18:52
強啦!!!!
政府不做我們自己做!!!!!
Olive avatar
By Olive
at 2014-06-29T08:46
要省電最顯著的方法就是漲電價
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2014-06-29T22:40
科技發達就會用更多電,是該找出更便宜的電而非省電
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2014-06-30T12:34
回扣呢?你叫KMT那些人怎麼活?
Daph Bay avatar
By Daph Bay
at 2014-07-01T02:28
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2014-07-01T16:23
Necoo avatar
By Necoo
at 2014-07-02T06:17
經濟部長號稱自然組 還是輸你一大截
Lauren avatar
By Lauren
at 2014-07-02T20:11
之前住宿舍大家電腦電扇,公共區域的燈、電器不用也不關
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2014-07-03T10:05
X推
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2014-07-03T23:59
無限期支持原po 入主經濟部
Franklin avatar
By Franklin
at 2014-07-04T13:53
冷氣沒收錢時,有幾個人誇張到24小時運轉,後來改冷氣卡
Catherine avatar
By Catherine
at 2014-07-05T03:47
超強
Enid avatar
By Enid
at 2014-07-05T17:42
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2014-07-06T07:36
推推
Christine avatar
By Christine
at 2014-07-06T21:30
,還是有聽說破解後狂開的,不要錢或便宜大家就會浪費
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2014-07-07T11:24
省下核四有屁用,核一二三停役的一起省?
Megan avatar
By Megan
at 2014-07-08T01:18
省電用講的比較快 真正能做到的有幾個 調漲電價才對
Poppy avatar
By Poppy
at 2014-07-08T15:12
沒有空調就沒辦法抗議還敢喊省電喔
Lucy avatar
By Lucy
at 2014-07-09T05:07
推g0v
Agnes avatar
By Agnes
at 2014-07-09T19:01
推!
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2014-07-10T08:55
果然反核的都活在幻想世界裡....替代方案就是 一起來幻想
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2014-07-10T22:49
Ursula avatar
By Ursula
at 2014-07-11T12:43
Audriana avatar
By Audriana
at 2014-07-12T02:37
太強了~~
Xanthe avatar
By Xanthe
at 2014-07-12T16:31
Kama avatar
By Kama
at 2014-07-13T06:26
最有效的方法只有漲價一途吧
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2014-07-13T20:20
我敢喊廢核也敢喊調漲電價啦 反核的為什麼不敢提漲電價
Skylar Davis avatar
By Skylar Davis
at 2014-07-14T10:14
到最後找不到就...?
John avatar
By John
at 2014-07-15T00:08
g0v好棒
Madame avatar
By Madame
at 2014-07-15T14:02
我推g0v 但這次真的不是很有說服力
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2014-07-16T03:56
調漲電價取代蓋電廠敢不敢喊
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2014-07-16T17:50
現在有核1~3電價還不是照漲不誤呵呵
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2014-07-17T07:45
g0v重點是嘗試去做各種事情 唱雖他們沒意義
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2014-07-17T21:39
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2014-07-18T11:33
省電根本做不到 拜託提一點有建設性的方案
Anonymous avatar
By Anonymous
at 2014-07-19T01:27
推g0v!
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2014-07-19T15:21
這個推 舊式冷氣記得換變頻的更省電喔
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2014-07-20T05:15
有解決問題的心就是推
Liam avatar
By Liam
at 2014-07-20T19:10
現在電價根本低於發電成本http://tinyurl.com/my9vn75
其實不管反不反核,都應該要漲的
Thomas avatar
By Thomas
at 2014-07-21T09:04
支持
James avatar
By James
at 2014-07-21T22:58
Barb Cronin avatar
By Barb Cronin
at 2014-07-22T12:52
版上一堆文,可是就有人完全選擇性忽視
David avatar
By David
at 2014-07-23T02:46
就是惡性循環阿,核四運轉=>用電量依然成長=>
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2014-07-23T16:40
政治力壓電價=>台電哭哭虧損=>核五 or 漲電價
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2014-07-24T06:34
總酸有核1~3電價還不是照漲不誤,可人家是賠本賣電耶= =
Olga avatar
By Olga
at 2014-07-24T20:29
推, 真有才
Callum avatar
By Callum
at 2014-07-25T10:23
推g0v
Valerie avatar
By Valerie
at 2014-07-26T00:17
核四發不發電不重要 有蓋有A就好 http://ppt.cc/NCwY
Sarah avatar
By Sarah
at 2014-07-26T14:11
推,
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2014-07-27T04:05
核電不要只算發電成本 核廢料不用成本?核災不用花錢復原?
Belly avatar
By Belly
at 2014-07-27T17:59
很多 東西的更新往往花的錢更多 導致工廠不願意花錢
就像自來水管漏水 汰管更新比起漏掉的水費更高
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2014-07-28T07:53
但礙於自來水是公營事業 賠錢還是得做 水費還是低
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2014-07-28T21:48
Zenobia avatar
By Zenobia
at 2014-07-29T11:42
工業用電才是重點,要打打老虎別只會拍蒼蠅。
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2014-07-30T01:36
推!
Gary avatar
By Gary
at 2014-07-30T15:30
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2014-07-31T05:24
推!!!
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By Skylar Davis
at 2014-07-31T19:18
停工安檢=插入燃料棒檢查一下 然後預算又追加幾億 科科
Michael avatar
By Michael
at 2014-08-01T09:13
好神
Blanche avatar
By Blanche
at 2014-08-01T23:07
工業用電才低於發電成本
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By Todd Johnson
at 2014-08-02T13:01
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2014-08-03T02:55
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By Kama
at 2014-08-03T16:49
Regina avatar
By Regina
at 2014-08-04T06:43
推推
Andy avatar
By Andy
at 2014-08-04T20:37
Ivy avatar
By Ivy
at 2014-08-05T10:32
推一個
Tracy avatar
By Tracy
at 2014-08-06T00:26
南部家家戶戶蓋太陽能板~~
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2014-08-06T14:20
Victoria avatar
By Victoria
at 2014-08-07T04:14
公車蓋太陽能板 每個人自己走路將手機行動電源等充電
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By Edwina
at 2014-08-07T18:08
push
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2014-08-08T08:02
機組更新、電路地下化,錢誰出? 台電快破產了哪來的錢
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2014-08-08T21:56
推推推
Ula avatar
By Ula
at 2014-08-09T11:51
南部有很多台糖閒置土地只能出租不能賣,為何不一起合
作放置太陽能板,比起養蚊子好多了!!!
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By Barb Cronin
at 2014-08-10T01:45
機組更新本來就是台電應該做的
Steve avatar
By Steve
at 2014-08-10T15:39
好像有人以為有核四後電價不會漲,不用省電
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2014-08-11T05:33
所以破產就什麼都不用做 只要一直漲電價就好了??
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2014-08-11T19:27
要省冷氣就是推廣綠屋頂,多種樹囉.尤其是綠屋頂
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By Noah
at 2014-08-12T09:21
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2014-08-12T23:16
核四爆炸不是賠更多? 騙老百姓蓋核四繼續A回扣好棒棒
Connor avatar
By Connor
at 2014-08-13T13:10
錢誰出 ? 媽的國民黨黨產歸公就絕對不止有 200 億了
Oliver avatar
By Oliver
at 2014-08-14T03:04
謝謝g0v為國家做這麼多!
Jacob avatar
By Jacob
at 2014-08-14T16:58
反服貿到最後?反核呢?
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2014-08-15T06:52
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By Kyle
at 2014-08-15T20:46
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By Queena
at 2014-08-16T10:40
都躲在最後噓 XD
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2014-08-17T00:35
跟反核人士浪費用電,用電用爽爽比起來 剛好而已
William avatar
By William
at 2014-08-17T14:29
推推
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By Brianna
at 2014-08-18T04:23
Damian avatar
By Damian
at 2014-08-18T18:17
馬的,這個國家最弱的就是政府,人民隨便組織都強多了
Ingrid avatar
By Ingrid
at 2014-08-19T08:11
台達電也有在做這方面的節能方案
Olivia avatar
By Olivia
at 2014-08-19T22:05
不要鬧了 這樣省下去你會發現自己過著趨近原始人的生活
Eartha avatar
By Eartha
at 2014-08-20T11:59
修立院,民間的錢大概只要百分之一;拍經濟動能廣告更是1/n
Hardy avatar
By Hardy
at 2014-08-21T01:54
我都不曉得原來原始人有用LED燈照明
Hedwig avatar
By Hedwig
at 2014-08-21T15:48
http://e-info.org.tw/node/86130 國科會提出的節能措施
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By Agatha
at 2014-08-22T05:42
LED是工廠做出來的,用工廠做LED不增加耗電嗎?挖東補西頗呵
Zora avatar
By Zora
at 2014-08-22T19:36
樓上神邏輯!
Agatha avatar
By Agatha
at 2014-08-23T09:30
難道你LED不需要工廠耗電做出來嗎?神邏輯?
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2014-08-23T23:24
所以就不打算更換更加省電的照明設備囉?
Oscar avatar
By Oscar
at 2014-08-24T13:19
當然神邏輯,這麼說蓋核4也要用到電阿,挖東補西?
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2014-08-25T03:13
這有點像是換機具好貴阿不要換,那蓋核四是...?
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By Selena
at 2014-08-25T17:07
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By Ina
at 2014-08-26T07:01
蓋核四是因為要讓核一二三順利除役 阿不就好貴不要換?
蓋核四產出的電遠大於蓋核四用的電好嗎?
Quanna avatar
By Quanna
at 2014-08-26T20:55
要求各縣市長承諾/簽署推動公部門節電,訂定個比例逐年下降
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By Wallis
at 2014-08-27T10:49
你們去找傳統產業,隨便一台老車床耗電就你幾百戶LED了
老闆要跟著換嗎?你說服老闆換新機台還比你全換LED更有用.
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By Candice
at 2014-08-28T00:43
Rebecca avatar
By Rebecca
at 2014-08-28T14:38
那你又知道換led省的電不會比工廠製作耗的電多了?
Isabella avatar
By Isabella
at 2014-08-29T04:32
老闆不換機台理由只有一個:因為電太便宜
Candice avatar
By Candice
at 2014-08-29T18:26
傳統廠如紡織廠,機台三十幾年了幹嘛不換呢?有想過嗎?
Margaret avatar
By Margaret
at 2014-08-30T08:20
所以能漲價嗎?慣老闆看到鄉民在那邊反對漲電價爽的哩
Andrew avatar
By Andrew
at 2014-08-30T22:14
鄉民沒幾個人反漲吧,尤其是對工業用電,最好漲給他倒
Robert avatar
By Robert
at 2014-08-31T12:08
你看台面上工業節電有傳統廠嗎?都嘛科技廠
Quintina avatar
By Quintina
at 2014-09-01T02:02
漲給他倒XDDD你想過台灣工業的勞工嗎?你要他們去哪?
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By Audriana
at 2014-09-01T15:57
科技廠幹嘛換設備?因為製程進步,不換設備根本拼不過對手.
Bethany avatar
By Bethany
at 2014-09-02T05:51
你說到點了就傳統高耗能產業沒競爭力
Charlotte avatar
By Charlotte
at 2014-09-02T19:45
Lily avatar
By Lily
at 2014-09-03T09:39
開飲機燒掉1/3座核四,你們立馬拔插頭了沒?阿不就用力推?
Rachel avatar
By Rachel
at 2014-09-03T23:33
傳統高耗能產業沒競爭力有哪幾家?說來聽聽
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By Carolina Franco
at 2014-09-04T13:27
要反駁也拿出數據來 給點誠意好不好 不要腦內假想補完
Susan avatar
By Susan
at 2014-09-05T03:22
什麼都講 我的經驗 啊是要聽誰的啦 拿數據出來吧
William avatar
By William
at 2014-09-05T17:16
所有電廠都是產出電>蓋的電量,照你的邏輯就選擇
Edward Lewis avatar
By Edward Lewis
at 2014-09-06T07:10
綠能電廠阿
Lydia avatar
By Lydia
at 2014-09-06T21:04
推節流~
Joe avatar
By Joe
at 2014-09-07T10:58
我選核能,我幹嘛選綠能?台灣根本沒地方蓋幹嘛選?
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2014-09-08T00:52
傳統高耗能產業,就中鋼吧,快點打電話說你的訴求叫他滾啊.
Hedy avatar
By Hedy
at 2014-09-08T14:46
什麼政策都要人民自己來 要政府官員幹嘛
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2014-09-09T04:41
幹嘛選爭議大的核電廠呢?因為你比的東西錯了嘛
Emma avatar
By Emma
at 2014-09-09T18:35
也應該要提出資料說明傳統廠都沒更新設備
Rae avatar
By Rae
at 2014-09-10T08:29
這個做出來我們還要經濟部幹嘛?
Ophelia avatar
By Ophelia
at 2014-09-10T22:23
傳統廠最好有資料放在網路上給你找啦
Emily avatar
By Emily
at 2014-09-11T12:17
跪拜><
Anthony avatar
By Anthony
at 2014-09-12T02:11
飲水機用定時插座不錯,以前一不注意加水就會燒乾
Genevieve avatar
By Genevieve
at 2014-09-12T16:05
核四一年產兩百億度.平均一年每個人要省大約900度電...
如果你是四口之家,年省3600度電才能省掉核四.
Tom avatar
By Tom
at 2014-09-13T06:00
自己國家自己救
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By Necoo
at 2014-09-13T19:54
g0v真的很棒
Dorothy avatar
By Dorothy
at 2014-09-14T09:48
Edith avatar
By Edith
at 2014-09-14T23:42
評估是評估,跟工業用電設備是否"已"更新完畢無正相關.
Elvira avatar
By Elvira
at 2014-09-15T13:36
我也可以評估啊,民生工業都不要用電,省90%總耗電量.
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By Ursula
at 2014-09-16T03:30
借轉環境板,謝謝!
Ethan avatar
By Ethan
at 2014-09-16T17:25
我上次看到這個fb文 http://goo.gl/esvSXi 希望有幫助

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at 2014-04-25T21:53
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at 2014-04-25T00:25
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By Hedy
at 2014-04-24T11:51
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By Charlotte
at 2014-04-23T12:32
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By Sierra Rose
at 2014-04-22T12:03
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