各國改良風力發電 成長最快能源科技 - 生態環境討論
By Ingrid
at 2007-12-07T23:07
at 2007-12-07T23:07
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推 BarkingSin:我以為生態環境在這邊是共識所以不用講,果然造成誤會 12/07 21:04
→ BarkingSin:如果離岸風機像中油管線那樣插在藻礁上,當然要反對 12/07 21:05
→ BarkingSin:這邊哪有大眾啊XDrz 12/07 21:07
→ BarkingSin:而且,大眾對綠色能源看法應該是貴又沒效率的新奇玩意吧 12/07 21:13
→ BarkingSin:就像這串的前一篇說一般認為綠建築=貴那樣orz 12/07 21:15
→ BarkingSin:崙尾是彰濱工業區那邊嗎?台灣搜尋到好幾個崙尾 囧a 12/07 21:35
→ BarkingSin:我覺得環評用開發面積當門檻很奇怪,應該修正為開發範圍 12/07 21:37
→ BarkingSin:例如離岸風機這種的佔地很零碎,可能就不用經過環評? 12/07 21:39
→ BarkingSin:物種的棲息範圍調查是我的老師這些生態學者應該做的 12/07 21:40
→ BarkingSin:生態影響本來應該當作開發方式的重要依據 12/07 21:41
→ BarkingSin:但是研究出來偏偏又會遇到台鋼案那種地方代表…囧啊 12/07 21:43
→ BarkingSin:白海豚搞不好最需要吃排毒餐,覺得他們在西部近海很委屈 12/07 21:49
直接回好了XD
推文實在太累
其實我自己就是做白豬相關的調查
目前的確很多開發案其位處的沿海位置有極大部分是白豬的生活範圍
以彰濱崙尾工業區為例,彰濱火力電廠,離岸風機(這個開發案的開發面積是腰壽大)
台中龍風電廠,通霄電廠,外傘頂洲附近到澎湖的牽纜線工程
當然還有可愛的大煉鋼廠
白豬在台灣可能不到200隻(數字極度不準,但總之很少)
而且他們就生活在港口附近,河口周邊,你在台中火力發電廠出水口就可以親眼看見
結果前一陣子有可愛的議長?跳出來說捕漁一輩子沒看過白豬
還k了文先生一頓
這些都是題外話
回到離岸風機這部份
我想問,為什麼會覺得離岸風機佔地較零碎就不需經過環評?
環評儘管在爛在沒有可信度
我想他都是一種保障環境的政策(當然也有可能被錯誤利用)
以崙尾這個計畫來說,的確他一隻的佔地很小
可是400~500隻插下去,這樣子佔地還很小嗎?
更何況重點在於建設期間,這些白豬要他們去哪?
那一塊海域有可能是台中與雲嘉族群的交流廊道
它的重要性與否?見仁見智...
這還是不提到噪音的問題
對我來說,這一塊海域已經被彰濱工業區搞的夠烏煙瘴氣了
再下去以後的影響不輸給台塑六輕
我不知道為什麼在台灣大家突然開始瘋狂支持風力發電
雖然台灣冬天風力夠強,但往往過強,使得風力發電無法使用
夏天往往又都沒風...整隻算起來在台灣使用的C/P值並不高
也許版友說的新形式的風機是可以解決這樣的問題
對我來說,也許因為我很關注白豬,所以我很反對離岸風機
但是我想更現實的一點是
在台灣的大多數人民,他們關心他們的政治,生活
並不關心這不到200隻的白豬到底是死是活吧(攤手)
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不是針對誰,我只是對離岸風機與白豬的事實講一下我本身作調查的想法
事實上我並不偏好文先生和媽祖魚他們保護白豬的立場
你要所有的開發案停止?沿海漁業禁漁?賞鯨業者停止營運?
就為了這200之白豬...說真的妳叫當地民眾自殺比較快
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