「-nese」代表歧視? - 文化差異
By Ivy
at 2011-04-28T12:06
at 2011-04-28T12:06
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之前在本板某篇文章看到有板友說「-nese 有歧視意味」,最近在 EAseries
板看到下面這篇文章 #1DhnTYOu 的推文裡面的兩個連結有反駁這件事,因此
轉過來給板友參考。
※ 引述《qhforever (head)》之銘言:
標題: Re: [閒聊] 歐美影集有提到台灣的東西的橋段
時間: Thu Apr 21 01:26:55 2011
最新一集的 Cougar Town (S2E15) 出現了以下對話
Jules : I really like this girl.
I mean, sure, yes, sometimes she can be a little racist.
Travis : Mom, people from Taiwan really are called Taiwanese.
從第二句看來 是種教育意味說明 Taiwanese 的稱呼並無種族歧視之意
然後反推回到第一句 表示真的有人以為 Taiwanese 的稱呼有種族歧視之意
到底為什麼國外會有人這樣認為呢 ?
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推 pupuolala:聽英文老師說過,像Japanese.Chinese字尾是nese的都帶有 04/21 01:38
→ pupuolala:稍微的歧視意味,有點像是叫你小日本這種感覺,所以老師說 04/21 01:39
→ pupuolala:他出國都堅持要說自己是Taiwaner不要說TaiwaneseXD 04/21 01:39
推 frannica:http://0rz.tw/cPy6y 這邊有一篇澄清的 04/21 01:50
→ frannica:http://blog.roodo.com/elysii/archives/12178101.html 04/21 01:52
→ frannica:這篇也可以看看,這兩篇下面回應也都有一些語言的討論 04/21 01:54
→ frannica:簡單說就是 nese 並沒有歧視的意味 04/21 01:54
推 Lovetech:我只能說一樓的英文老師超無聊 真正有歧視意味的是Jap 04/21 13:04
→ Lovetech:最好Japanese是歧視語 還有Asian不是-ese結尾 但聽洋人說 04/21 13:06
→ Lovetech:起來 不知怎麼搞的就是很不蘇湖 語氣態度才是重點 04/21 13:07
→ Lovetech:另外 堅持-ese有歧視的人 就算看到語言學教授或專家澄清 04/21 13:08
→ Lovetech:仍堅持他們自己相信的事情 洋洋得意宣傳Taiwaner 超白爛 04/21 13:10
→ Lovetech:就從沒看過日本人在推Japaner 但洋人對他們態度就是尊重 04/21 13:11
推 winky1:一樓的英文老師誤人子弟............ 04/21 18:07
推 hosyo:1F英文老師講的東西不是很久以前的網路謠言嗎XDDD 04/21 19:48
推 onlybye:前天看到這集也有疑問?..是連老外都覺得這樣稱呼不好還是? 04/22 00:22
推 pupuolala:1F再出來,那我也想知道為什麼cougar town會這樣寫耶??? 04/22 04:02
→ pupuolala:我們自己的態度當然不需要自貶,但我也很想知道影集會這 04/22 04:03
→ pupuolala:寫的原因耶? 有對美國文化比較了解的板友嗎?? 04/22 04:05
推 tearsofeos:這段看上下文跟整部影集就會明白... 04/22 05:55
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板看到下面這篇文章 #1DhnTYOu 的推文裡面的兩個連結有反駁這件事,因此
轉過來給板友參考。
※ 引述《qhforever (head)》之銘言:
標題: Re: [閒聊] 歐美影集有提到台灣的東西的橋段
時間: Thu Apr 21 01:26:55 2011
最新一集的 Cougar Town (S2E15) 出現了以下對話
Jules : I really like this girl.
I mean, sure, yes, sometimes she can be a little racist.
Travis : Mom, people from Taiwan really are called Taiwanese.
從第二句看來 是種教育意味說明 Taiwanese 的稱呼並無種族歧視之意
然後反推回到第一句 表示真的有人以為 Taiwanese 的稱呼有種族歧視之意
到底為什麼國外會有人這樣認為呢 ?
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推 pupuolala:聽英文老師說過,像Japanese.Chinese字尾是nese的都帶有 04/21 01:38
→ pupuolala:稍微的歧視意味,有點像是叫你小日本這種感覺,所以老師說 04/21 01:39
→ pupuolala:他出國都堅持要說自己是Taiwaner不要說TaiwaneseXD 04/21 01:39
推 frannica:http://0rz.tw/cPy6y 這邊有一篇澄清的 04/21 01:50
→ frannica:http://blog.roodo.com/elysii/archives/12178101.html 04/21 01:52
→ frannica:這篇也可以看看,這兩篇下面回應也都有一些語言的討論 04/21 01:54
→ frannica:簡單說就是 nese 並沒有歧視的意味 04/21 01:54
推 Lovetech:我只能說一樓的英文老師超無聊 真正有歧視意味的是Jap 04/21 13:04
→ Lovetech:最好Japanese是歧視語 還有Asian不是-ese結尾 但聽洋人說 04/21 13:06
→ Lovetech:起來 不知怎麼搞的就是很不蘇湖 語氣態度才是重點 04/21 13:07
→ Lovetech:另外 堅持-ese有歧視的人 就算看到語言學教授或專家澄清 04/21 13:08
→ Lovetech:仍堅持他們自己相信的事情 洋洋得意宣傳Taiwaner 超白爛 04/21 13:10
→ Lovetech:就從沒看過日本人在推Japaner 但洋人對他們態度就是尊重 04/21 13:11
推 winky1:一樓的英文老師誤人子弟............ 04/21 18:07
推 hosyo:1F英文老師講的東西不是很久以前的網路謠言嗎XDDD 04/21 19:48
推 onlybye:前天看到這集也有疑問?..是連老外都覺得這樣稱呼不好還是? 04/22 00:22
推 pupuolala:1F再出來,那我也想知道為什麼cougar town會這樣寫耶??? 04/22 04:02
→ pupuolala:我們自己的態度當然不需要自貶,但我也很想知道影集會這 04/22 04:03
→ pupuolala:寫的原因耶? 有對美國文化比較了解的板友嗎?? 04/22 04:05
推 tearsofeos:這段看上下文跟整部影集就會明白... 04/22 05:55
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